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2 points by zck 2343 days ago | link | parent

Fair enough on the caps issue. I can't argue with "if it works better...", even if I don't like it personally.

Who do you want to target with this campaign? People learning programming for the first time, people learning a Lisp for the first time, or Lispers new to Clojure (and Arc)? You'll require very different instruction pages for each group. I'd be happy to help you write something, if you're interested. I'm sure many of us here would be.



2 points by evanrmurphy 2341 days ago | link

I'd love to get some collaboration from the community here.

I agree 100% about different group requiring different landing pages. Both of the ones you mentioned are good targets, I think. I'll do more keyword research to help dissect the audiences.

The beginning programmers' page is easiest, because pg's tutorial already targets them:

"This is a brief tutorial on Arc. It's intended for readers with little programming experience and no Lisp experience. It is thus also an introduction to Lisp."

All we have to do is put the tutorial in an iFrame next to the REPL, as thaddeus suggested. [1] I can take care of this one. (Eventually it would be cool to have an interactive tutorial though, as you suggested.)

Can I get your input on a page that targets a Lisper who's new to Arc? They can be coming from the Lisp dialect of your choice.

And what other audiences would you consider? Maybe people new to Lisp but coming from other programming experience, such as Ruby or JavaScript?

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[1] http://tryarc.uservoice.com/forums/80605-general/suggestions...

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3 points by thaddeus 2341 days ago | link

I noticed within your feedback forum there were suggestions for REPL window size changes (for both bigger and smaller) and I got to thinking that when I wrote PetroEnergyNews (http://petroenergynews.ca/map ... which has a similar bounding box look to it) I did a bunch of experimenting with different systems, different monitors and different screen resolutions before coming up with the following optimal combinations:

  screen-x: "Narrowest" 700 
            "Narrower" 800 
            "Narrow" 900 *default*
            "Wide" 1200  
            "Wider" 1400 
            "Widest" 1600
 
  screen-y: "Shortest" 400 
            "Shorter" 500 
            "Short" 600 *default*
            "Tall" 750 
            "Taller" 900 
            "Tallest" 1200 
where the defaults were also the best suited to the iPad.

If you would like you can create an account on PetroEnergyNews then go to the user preferences to select the various combinations to get a feel for these sizes.

The "Widest" by "Tallest" setting is perfect for my 27 inch iMac screen :)

Anyways hopefully this info is helpful/useful.

[edit:

1. oops, that's only the map inset window, so it doesn't include the top and bottom bars, but still they should be easy to guesstimate at about 24px each.

2. I guess the width really doesn't matter when you can just set to 100%, but it may help with the height settings?]

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1 point by evanrmurphy 2340 days ago | link

Noted, thanks!

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